While taking the Intelligent Buildings course, I was able to learn about the many different types of technologies that are available for the advancement of infrastructure. Intelligent technology such as automated robots or drones, database software, BIM software, 3D printing, and sensors are all examples of different things that could be used for the benefit of future intelligent infrastructure.
One of the most interesting thing that I've learned and thought about during this class was the use of automated robots or drones for the construction or maintenance of future infrastructure. One of the things I've talked to Professor Mitchell about during class was the possible use of drones to inspect bridges, dams, and other forms of infrastructure as opposed to sending out inspectors to see and maintain them in person. This could possibly save a lot of time and money, although, I think a lot more research and development would be needed for something like this to happen.
I believe that many of these new intelligent forms of technology allows our society to become more efficient with maintaining our infrastructure and could be something that makes our world a safer and more sustainable place.
For the final project, I was in a group that worked on a BIM project that allowed us to better understand the efficiency and difficulties of using a BIM software such as Revit. With this information and experience we were much better at using the program and we now know how useful it may be for future building projects such as connecting a 2 dimensional drawing and connecting it with a three dimensional world. Not only that, but Revit is a software that also utilizes the object oriented database concept that allows us to be specific and accurate at the same time without overlap.
But even with our experience with Revit, our group was able to find some difficulties with revit such as it's specific focus on building and infrastructure. Although, this may possibility be a result of not fully understanding the program to it's fullest extent.
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Tuesday, March 10, 2015
Tuesday, February 3, 2015
Personal individual project discussion
Personal individual project discussion:
Our group has started on this term project and already have some architectural and structural plans for the analysis of the building. With this project, we hope to gain a greater insight into the BIM programs and see how the program allows for the different integration of systems such as structural, architectural, HVAC, plumbing, and fire protection. A schedule was made for better organization and timely distribution of work and progress. There are many resources all over the internet and our professor, Dr. Mitchell, could also be a very valuable resource to our learning.
B4 - Justin Hileman - Group E
For this project, I am part of Team Project - 06 and the team members are Castro, Voznyak, and Yau. Our topic for this project is Senior Design Project with BIM.
The discussion being raised for this post is "Describe project - why chosen, relation to IB, challenges". One way to represent this would be to post the outline we have completed. But for a better understanding, the project is going to be based of the design of a community center for children and adults with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). The center will be able to provide public spaces to use for activities, as well as private spaces such as offices for administrative staff and therapeutic rooms for behavioral and social analysis.
The reason we decided to choose this project because three of us are part of the senior design group. But having a fourth partner will allow for new ideas and visions that can be implemented that will greatly differ this project from the actual Senior Design Project. This project was also chosen because there are many aspects of Revit and BIM that will not be addressed during the Senior Design process and will be used and interpreted and understood during this project. Some of these programs are addressed in the outline and hoping to use Navisworks ad Green Building Studio. There are many Autodesk products that we can benefit from that would not have been explored otherwise.
This project can and will relate to Intelligent Buildings based on the idea that the building itself and its components are "Intelligent". There are going to be many technological components included in this building, such as cameras and security system, WiFi, and lighting with dimmers. For readers not aware, those with ASD are very sensitive to lights, so implementing an in-depth and high-tech electrical system will be pertinent.
There are many challenges for this project. One of the big challenges is going to be the implementation of a 4D construction simulation, which means the 3D model connected with time scheduling. This could also be done with costs. This will be difficult because our group does not have all the experience necessary to do something this detailed, so it will be a learning process and very helpful for this project. Another challenge will be designing two unique models and their building systems. This will be time consuming but will allow the group to have a better understanding of the process.
Comments
In response to the posts written by G. Papadourakis, R. Moore, and T. Castonguay, the idea of 3D printing and construction sounds very interesting. The outline was easy to follow as all of the different ideas/topics being addressed are presented. It is nice to see how your group is going to break down the work as well.
In response to the posts written by M. Price and K. Saldivar, the topic of Intelligent vs. Green Building is going to be a very detailed topic to discuss. There are so many questions that can arise with if it is Intelligent, is it Green? and vice versa. From what I can tell, you are going to do a research paper about that and compare the two, and I believe you will be able to discuss LEED and how to implement both like you mentioned in your posts.
In response to the post written by S. Uribe, your topic caught my eye right away. It stood out and sounded different than the rest of the projects and I was intrigued. Your post on Automated Home Systems was to the point and mentioned exactly what you expect to research and discuss. As you mentioned, you are going to look at technology in the United States as well as abroad. I think it would be very interesting to see how far advanced/behind we are comparatively.
Source:
P2 - Outline
The discussion being raised for this post is "Describe project - why chosen, relation to IB, challenges". One way to represent this would be to post the outline we have completed. But for a better understanding, the project is going to be based of the design of a community center for children and adults with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). The center will be able to provide public spaces to use for activities, as well as private spaces such as offices for administrative staff and therapeutic rooms for behavioral and social analysis.
The reason we decided to choose this project because three of us are part of the senior design group. But having a fourth partner will allow for new ideas and visions that can be implemented that will greatly differ this project from the actual Senior Design Project. This project was also chosen because there are many aspects of Revit and BIM that will not be addressed during the Senior Design process and will be used and interpreted and understood during this project. Some of these programs are addressed in the outline and hoping to use Navisworks ad Green Building Studio. There are many Autodesk products that we can benefit from that would not have been explored otherwise.
This project can and will relate to Intelligent Buildings based on the idea that the building itself and its components are "Intelligent". There are going to be many technological components included in this building, such as cameras and security system, WiFi, and lighting with dimmers. For readers not aware, those with ASD are very sensitive to lights, so implementing an in-depth and high-tech electrical system will be pertinent.
There are many challenges for this project. One of the big challenges is going to be the implementation of a 4D construction simulation, which means the 3D model connected with time scheduling. This could also be done with costs. This will be difficult because our group does not have all the experience necessary to do something this detailed, so it will be a learning process and very helpful for this project. Another challenge will be designing two unique models and their building systems. This will be time consuming but will allow the group to have a better understanding of the process.
Comments
In response to the posts written by G. Papadourakis, R. Moore, and T. Castonguay, the idea of 3D printing and construction sounds very interesting. The outline was easy to follow as all of the different ideas/topics being addressed are presented. It is nice to see how your group is going to break down the work as well.
In response to the posts written by M. Price and K. Saldivar, the topic of Intelligent vs. Green Building is going to be a very detailed topic to discuss. There are so many questions that can arise with if it is Intelligent, is it Green? and vice versa. From what I can tell, you are going to do a research paper about that and compare the two, and I believe you will be able to discuss LEED and how to implement both like you mentioned in your posts.
In response to the post written by S. Uribe, your topic caught my eye right away. It stood out and sounded different than the rest of the projects and I was intrigued. Your post on Automated Home Systems was to the point and mentioned exactly what you expect to research and discuss. As you mentioned, you are going to look at technology in the United States as well as abroad. I think it would be very interesting to see how far advanced/behind we are comparatively.
Source:
P2 - Outline
Project Outline: Ami Amegan, Juno Xiao, Jonathan (Yu-sen) Liu
PROJECT OUTLINE
AE 510 - Intelligent Buildings
Winter 2014-2015
February 3rd, 2014
The Institute of Contemporary Art, Boston MA
Prepared
for:
DREXEL UNIVERSITY
3141 CHESTNUT ST
PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
Office: (267-251-7851)
Prepared
by:
Group Members:
Ami
Amegan (aa997@drexel.edu)
Project Outline:
Our building of interest
is the ICA (Institute of Contemporary Art) in Boston. It is an art museum and
exhibition space located in Boston, Massachusetts. The current facility was
built in 2006 and was designed by architects Diller Scofidio and Renfro. It is
a 65,000 SF building that features a very dramatic folding ribbon form and a
cantilever that extends to the water’s edge. The facade consists of vertical
planks that alternate between transparent glass, translucent glass and opaque
metal. Galleries are located on the uppermost level, which leads to the
provision on a sheltered open space at ground level. Walls are glazed in clear
glass allowing the harbor view to become the backdrop behind the stage.
To complete this
project, we first have to acquire any necessary information on things such as
the overall site plan, square footage, floor plans etc. We have found a
research that was conducted on the building and intend to use it as the main
resource. In addition, we plan to use any helpful scholarly sources including
archives and Wikipedia for general information. While we are expected to use
Revit to model our building, it is inevitable to run into problems, therefore
we will depend on Autodesk help for any problems we may encounter. Students
will also refer to Youtube videos for various tutorials on how to be proficient
in Revit Meanwhile putting together a final document, there will be a weekly
log describing students’ progress as well as problems, and expected future work
for the following week.
The final accompanying
research paper’s table of content will be as follow:
I- Introduction
II- Building Description
III- Revit Model
IV- Technical
Difficulties of model
V- Improvements
VI- Structural and MEP
Suggested Models
VII- Conclusion
P2: Week 5 - Lee
Project Outline
- Deliverables
- RVT model
- Sheets
- 3D views
- Schedules
- Final evaluation paper
- Resources to use
- Tutorial 1
- Tutorial 2
- Possibly more..
- Description of planned building (Optional)
- In addition to going through tutorials, I may try to make Revit model of a Drexel building
- Making a model on my own will be optional depending on how much I can apply what I learned to a Drexel building model
- Timeline
- Week 5: Outline/Plan due
- Week 6: Start on Revit with logging each time
- Week 7: Draft due (at least 3/4 of project done)
- Week 8: Finish the project
- Week 9: Final deliverables due
- Logging
- Each time I use Revit for this project, I will be logging the process
- Amount of time spent
- The challenges I faced
- What can be improved in Revit
- Table of Contents of final descriptive document
- Introduction
- Procedure
- The steps I followed on tutorial
- The challenges I faced
- Summary of the building features
- Results
- Screenshots of the model and sheets
- Conclusion
- My experience with Revit
- What can be improved
Monday, February 2, 2015
B4: Week 5 Blog Post - Group B,Voznyak
My team decided to apply
and further explore ways in which we can utilize Building Information Modeling
techniques to further design, analyze, and present our senior design project to
the owner, Terri Matthews, CEO Jaden’s Voice. In its nature, we are working on
an extremely interesting and unusual project as we have helped the owner
analyze various sites, find the right site, and are now in the process of
actual design and communicating and managing "real-world" engineers
and builders. We believe that the AJ Drexel Autism Institute (whom we presented
the idea to already) and Drexel’s Center for Community Outreach will want to collaborate
on the future of this building. Additionally, we in the process of arranging an
environmental survey, site survey, subsurface exploration, and will be
presenting to City Council Members and stakeholders on February 16!
Besides simply using Revit
to create a simple architectural three-dimensional drawing as the senior design
team originally planned, we plan to search for other ways in which we can employ
this software to incorporate scheduling, structure, and MEP. As well we hope to
explore, learn, and find use in other various interoperable software such as:
Simulation, Green Building Studio, Ecotect Analysis, Rendering in A360, 3Ds
Max, Navisworks Simulate, Seek, Buzzsaw and Showcase.
The
objective of this senior design project is to “design, develop, and renovate an
existing building in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to serve as an educational,
social center, and living facility for children and adults with autism and
their families”. Our project scope is to create a community center on a series
of occupied and vacant sites located at the intersection of North Union Street and
Haverford Avenue. The Jaden’s Voice
Autism Community Center aims to bring “ASD awareness to the public, provide
a space for play and social interaction, provide a temporary 6-10 family
shelter, establish affordable and quick medical/psychological/physical therapy
diagnostic clinical services to children with ASD, and provide a space for
emotional support/educational classes to parents who have children with ASD.
The building will also adhere and comply with ADA building codes”.
Our final deliverables for AE510 will aim to include an
energy usage model, structural analysis, preliminary Architectural, Civil, and
MEP design drawings, total construction cost, a project schedule, and hopefully
a 4D video of the construction progress.
Figure 1: Preliminary Rendering of the ASD
Community Center
Wednesday, January 28, 2015
Week 4 – Alex dePinhoNunes - How does Revit relate to Autocad and other drafting programs
Since the computers began to be used for the construction
firms, autocad have been the most used software that companies use to design
bildings. Although Many other softwares from different companies have been made
and used for diverse projects, autocad is the most used software for 2D
drawings. In comparison with the second most used software 2D the Bentley Microstation,
in my opinon, I can say that autocad has
advantages and disadvantages. First, the most efficient thing in autocad is the
easy shortcuts for every single command in the program making you be able to
drawing fast than in the microstation, that you need to point click in every
command that you want to use. In my opinion the microstation has the advantage
of create block with a simple click in ctrl+b, and in the autocad you need to
have a way complex steps to achieve this. In general the two software are very similar
and very good for use in 2D, but talking about 3D they are a complete disaster.
I don’t know if the Autocad 3D or Microstation 3D are still being used for
companies, but they cold not be even close to reach many aspects that the Revit
nowadays is able to do. First of all, these 2 old programs aren’t able to creat
blocks like furniture, doors, window and etc, instead were used rectangular
blocks to represent that . Second they are not capable to support complex anf
big structures, the program usually crash and had a very dalay to execute commands.
In comparison with revit, these 2 old programs reaaly have many disadvantages. In
the revit nowadays these two problems
that I told does not exist, with revit you are able to desgn any kind of
structure that you want and is relatively
esier tha other 3D softwares. The simple commands and the very intuitive interface
of the program, alyed with the previously kkowledge of the commands from
autocad can make the use of Revit a vary easy task for some people.
I’ve used other kind of softwares since I began to work and
study in the engeneering field, I have used Smart Plan, PDMS, Smart Marine,
Inventor, and some of others that are very similar and very complex to learn,
and of this kind of software I definitelly think that Revit, it’s the best one.
Have a good knowledge in this softaware can be a good skill that you want to
have for you job in the future.
Tuesday, January 27, 2015
B3 - Week 4 - How does Revit relate to other BIM programs?
My experience with design software has been limited to Revit and AutoCAD, with a few other softwares that are used for other types of design. Therefore I want to focus on the relationship between the two as it is what I can speak about most intelligently. Revit is a piece of software that is used to create digital models of buildings with the added benefit of pertinent building information being linked to different components of the model. The software is known as BIM, or building information modeling. This is done such that different requirements -- including schedules, elevations, plans, 3D views, etc. -- can all be generated from a single plan model. Obviously, some building components need additional parameters added from different views and some components are better designed from a different view. However, what this software allows is to step out of line work and simple pictorial representations that require each view to be created separately and are truly only helpful in 2D views. With this benefit now one can sit down and each time a person "sketches" or "drafts" the parameters of a component and accept those parameters, a fully finished and detailed component is created. This component also has material information linked to it as well as many other types of information that designers require. For instance, one can automatically create detailed schedules in a few clicks.
With that description of Revit established, we can compare how this relates to AutoCAD. AutoCAD is also able to create digital models, however it is actually software for digital drafting, which means it really is only an electronic sketch table. The software will allow for lines to be drawn and the spaces between them in 2 or 3 dimensions to be saved to create a digital drawing of the building. This differs greatly from Revit in that one using AutoCAD is only connecting lines to create shapes and the model is not so different from the same drawing done on paper. The computer assistance, however, allows for different features such as copy and paste as well as having a universal model scale that allows for exact dimensions to be satisfied. This was a major improvement, at the time, from drawing by hand which takes a tremendous amount of time and effort.
Compared to Revit, AutoCAD pales in comparison in terms of time and effort efficiency and efficacy to create a helpful, useable model. Revit allows for components to be represented as whole pieces with various types of data and modifiable parameters that relate to that type of building component. For example, a door in AutoCAD is really just a number of lines that will look like a picture of a door whereas a door in Revit is a predesigned component that is fully 3D, has multiple parameters in many different categories relating to design, and has a tremendous amount of metadata linked to it. It is simple to see that Revit can eliminate many of the tedious tasks associated with current design processes, including the dreaded updating of schedules and other information as the model changes.
Some other types of software do exist, such as Bentley Architecture V8i, Vico, and Tekla BIM which are all different in terms of interface and overall scope of use. For instance Bentley Architecture V8i is generally the software of choice for large international firms, which speaks volumes about the overall efficacy and dependability of the software. They also offer a myriad of different types of software that address many of the needs and concerns of highly professional and large projects that can be international collaborations. Vico is another type of BIM software that can allow for up to 5D models, which allow for advanced estimating and planning to be linked to the model. Vico also allows for projects to be remotely accessed and updated by multiple workers. Finally Tekla is mainly for civil projects as its main material types used for building are concrete and steel. All of these mentioned BIM softwares have the main difference from AutoCAD of being BIM and not just visual representations of a building. These BIM softwares will allow for advanced models to be created all at once while generating the necessary supporting documentation about the building components.
As Hamad Al-Sulaiti said, Autodesk did not fall from the limelight after the emergence of Revit -- they actually bought it and championed it. Autodesk is diversifying its products and evolving what we know as BIM into new and ever more useful programs. What is considerable is that they have found a way to thrive in a market where the paradigm of digital design is constantly changing. I think this is due in part by them identifying the inevitability of needing to adopt new systems to govern digital design and adopting these ideas as their own. When Revit was being designed Autodesk found out who was creating this and bought it outright because they knew that their initial design software would be obsolete soon.
Hang Wang also referenced his own experiences using both softwares in different coops. I agree with how he described both types of software in terms of usefulness. AutoCAD does have some applications where it performs better than Revit. For instance, when only simple, 2D plans are required Revit is much too involved and would not be useful for simple representation. Also for projects involving renovations or designing within a preexisting building would require the entire building to be recreated in Revit before any new designs could be done. Therefore it should be understood that Revit does no outshine AutoCAD in all was.
Angela Castro referenced that Revit is technically creating 4D models -- 3D models with even more information or parameters attached to it intelligently. There is a potential for 5, 6, 7D that have been loosely defined but essentially what they describe is adding increasing levels of metadata to a building model. This includes comprehensive aspects of the building design process so that there is the potential to complete the entire building design process at once by creating a the model in a BIM software. This is more or less the direction that BIM is currently taking -- allowing for computers to perform more of the tedious and time consuming tasks related to building design, such as cost estimates, material schedules, spatial conflicts, etc.
With that description of Revit established, we can compare how this relates to AutoCAD. AutoCAD is also able to create digital models, however it is actually software for digital drafting, which means it really is only an electronic sketch table. The software will allow for lines to be drawn and the spaces between them in 2 or 3 dimensions to be saved to create a digital drawing of the building. This differs greatly from Revit in that one using AutoCAD is only connecting lines to create shapes and the model is not so different from the same drawing done on paper. The computer assistance, however, allows for different features such as copy and paste as well as having a universal model scale that allows for exact dimensions to be satisfied. This was a major improvement, at the time, from drawing by hand which takes a tremendous amount of time and effort.
Compared to Revit, AutoCAD pales in comparison in terms of time and effort efficiency and efficacy to create a helpful, useable model. Revit allows for components to be represented as whole pieces with various types of data and modifiable parameters that relate to that type of building component. For example, a door in AutoCAD is really just a number of lines that will look like a picture of a door whereas a door in Revit is a predesigned component that is fully 3D, has multiple parameters in many different categories relating to design, and has a tremendous amount of metadata linked to it. It is simple to see that Revit can eliminate many of the tedious tasks associated with current design processes, including the dreaded updating of schedules and other information as the model changes.
Some other types of software do exist, such as Bentley Architecture V8i, Vico, and Tekla BIM which are all different in terms of interface and overall scope of use. For instance Bentley Architecture V8i is generally the software of choice for large international firms, which speaks volumes about the overall efficacy and dependability of the software. They also offer a myriad of different types of software that address many of the needs and concerns of highly professional and large projects that can be international collaborations. Vico is another type of BIM software that can allow for up to 5D models, which allow for advanced estimating and planning to be linked to the model. Vico also allows for projects to be remotely accessed and updated by multiple workers. Finally Tekla is mainly for civil projects as its main material types used for building are concrete and steel. All of these mentioned BIM softwares have the main difference from AutoCAD of being BIM and not just visual representations of a building. These BIM softwares will allow for advanced models to be created all at once while generating the necessary supporting documentation about the building components.
As Hamad Al-Sulaiti said, Autodesk did not fall from the limelight after the emergence of Revit -- they actually bought it and championed it. Autodesk is diversifying its products and evolving what we know as BIM into new and ever more useful programs. What is considerable is that they have found a way to thrive in a market where the paradigm of digital design is constantly changing. I think this is due in part by them identifying the inevitability of needing to adopt new systems to govern digital design and adopting these ideas as their own. When Revit was being designed Autodesk found out who was creating this and bought it outright because they knew that their initial design software would be obsolete soon.
Hang Wang also referenced his own experiences using both softwares in different coops. I agree with how he described both types of software in terms of usefulness. AutoCAD does have some applications where it performs better than Revit. For instance, when only simple, 2D plans are required Revit is much too involved and would not be useful for simple representation. Also for projects involving renovations or designing within a preexisting building would require the entire building to be recreated in Revit before any new designs could be done. Therefore it should be understood that Revit does no outshine AutoCAD in all was.
Angela Castro referenced that Revit is technically creating 4D models -- 3D models with even more information or parameters attached to it intelligently. There is a potential for 5, 6, 7D that have been loosely defined but essentially what they describe is adding increasing levels of metadata to a building model. This includes comprehensive aspects of the building design process so that there is the potential to complete the entire building design process at once by creating a the model in a BIM software. This is more or less the direction that BIM is currently taking -- allowing for computers to perform more of the tedious and time consuming tasks related to building design, such as cost estimates, material schedules, spatial conflicts, etc.
Week 4 - Giovana Pelisser - How does Revit relate to Autocad and other drafting programs?
Autodesk was the first company to
create a software for engineering design, and many companies after them are improving this sector. AutoCAD is a
complex software, with a enormity of commands, you can draw since a small house
to big highway.
Even though Revit is similar to AutoCAD, there
are many differences between them, and the hard part it was not used the
keyboard commands that AutoCAD has, which greatly streamlines the process.
Revit is much more intuitive and can be created walls, floors, windows and
doors more easily, with a much wider range in choice of materials, not to
mention the 3D practicality, which is nothing available with AutoCAD.
The good thing about Revit, since you can create a template and renders it
immediately. Another thing that stands out is the connection between the components,
both within the architectural project, the structural and systems, as can be
seen in some examples inside the Revit. Furthermore, the ease with which it
creates the final sheet, enabling the editing and the attachment of the
elevations, views and profiles designed previously.
Also, you can see that despite the
AutoCAD generate a more accurate design and have command and simpler
interfaces, Revit facilitates the design when it comes about the time spent. Unlike
AutoCAD, with Revit, the drawing steps may be done automatically, for example,
in designing the plant it is possible to decide where the cuts will pass, thus
cutting the program automatically generates, as the perspective is also
generated simultaneously.
ArquiCAD is another good software for
drawing, is the oldest BIM program available on the market, ArchiCAD is
intuitive to learn and has a relatively large user base, distributed worldwide.
Some Professors and Companies like to work with this software, but it has
limitations, it lacks power to work with more complex projects, and database
system is a little more basic than in similar programs, like Revit.
Comments:
Derek Lavigne talked about the advantages of Revit, giving more sense to projects, putting everything into a single set.
Angelina explained the differences and similarities between AutoCAD and Revit, such as Revit is easier to create a wall, for example.
Week 4, Abdulghani Albaloushi, Group D
Advantages of Revit/BIM
Revit
is a BIM program that is used by architects, structural engineers, and MEP
engineers. It allows you to design buildings including their detailed
components in 3D and 2D. The idea is to
design a 3D model or virtual representation of the actual physical structure. It
is compatible to work with 4D BIM (which refers to the intelligent combination
of 3D CAD components with time or deadline related information). The 4D tool tracks the different stages in the
building’s lifecycle from initiation to conclusion, and also performs material
quantity calculations.
Revit
can also be used as a very great collaboration tool between different
disciplines in the building design process. When using Revit in a project, one
should look at a company’s existing workflow process and determine if such an
elaborate collaboration is needed.
The
Revit work environment also allows clients to control whole buildings (project
environment) or individual 3D shapes (family editor environment). As mentioned
earlier, by using Revit, the user can design a building and its components in
3D, annotate the model with 2D drafting elements and access building information
from the building model database. When Revit is used in the initial design
stage, the 3D massing of a building is easily and clearly developed. It also
speeds up the development of the whole model and increases the accuracy of the
final product
Revit
had made building design process much easier. Many
companies nowadays invest in BIM for better design, project quality and
documentation. Multinational companies such as AECOM, Skidmore, Owings &
Merril (SOM), and Emaar use Revit for more insight and better predictability
for their projects, and as result achieve better business results.
Comment to Derik
I agree. The transformation from a 2D basic drawing to a complicated 3D (even 4D and 5d) is extremely important in this day and age. I also agree that Revit does a great job in integrating the different disciplines of the design.
Comment to Mark
I agree that if designer worked with the owner on design, this will definitely reduce the amount of errors and will reduce the design costs. Using BIM software like Revit saves both time and money.
Comment to Jonathan
I agree. Revit is one of the best CAD software in representing the product/plans to the clients. It is extremely useful for floor plans as wells. I agree that this software can be used by both architects and engineers.
Sources:
"Case
Study: WSP Flack + Kurtz." WSP Flack + Kurtz | BIM Case Study |
Autodesk. AUTODESK, n.d. Web. 26 Jan. 2015.
"Skidmore, Owings & Merrill." Autodesk -. AUTODESK, n.d. Web. 26 Jan. 2015.
Dickard,
Paul. "AECOM Deploys BIM for United Kingdom Schools." AECOM
Deploys Building Information Modeling (BIM) for United Kingdom Schools.
AECOM, 20 July 2011. Web. 26 Jan. 2015.
B3-Jinhao Liang-Group E
How does Revit relate to AutoCAD and other drafting program?
Revit has its database and been set up under the design framework of BIM, which could offer more accurate and high quality projects through its unique operation between 2D and 3D. As a future’s structure engineer, the intelligent models given by Revit give us assistance to simulate and deeply understand the project before beginning the project, in the meantime, which also help to forecast the performance of the building. The database of Revit categorize and sort these objects, such as pipes, walls, doors, floors, furniture and so forth, into different groups (Family) that could be easy to found in the left manual. These parametric components provide a wide platform for designers. Thus, Architecture designers don’t need to draw the components through complicated sketching in 2D plane, but alter the parameter values of the templet according to the existing models. For an Architecture company, a unique and creative database would be a direction of the competition. If an institute intend to do new model that quite different from other company, it is good choice to draw and design the component in AutoCAD and import it into Revit database because these two software have the same drawing pattern and can be translate each other. Furthermore, AutoCAD is a comprehensive design software, focusing on 2D drawing, can be used in various areas, hence it lacks of specific expressive force in building. However, Revit, obviously, have a better advantage in expressing 3D model like the camera system and optional conversion between 2D and 3D. We can view the part of the building from other perspectives. In comparison, Revit could lock the relative position, the length and height can be kept until the project is completed. The setting of stairs, walls and floors are more convenient than AutoCAD. Actually, these functions are all from AutoCAD and Revit have combined a great number of functions and from ArchiCAD and make them turn in parameterization. Nonetheless, AutoCAD have more smooth operation speed for that it will close the unnecessary calculation during drawing. Unluckily, Revit is relatively slow because it keeps work to calculate what you did all the time. For me, I pretty like the generating system of project sheet. With Revit, it becomes easier to alter it in the floor plan manual and drag the modified floor plan to the project sheet anytime. For AutoCAD, you need to draw everything in the sheet.
"AUTODESK UNVEILS AUTOCAD REVIT SERIES 7." Computer Workstations 1 Feb. 2005. Academic OneFile.
Web. 26 Jan. 2015.
Revit and AutoCAD, 2014,
web. http://revitoped.blogspot.com/2014/04/revit-and-autocad.html
Comment to Hang Wang
You really did the researches about the Revit and provided the reference. I noticed that you said Revit is mainly used for Architecture design. I strongly agree with you. However, this software also offer adequate technique support for structure analysis. So, you not only do the design job through Revit, but also conduct the analysis about shear stress and bending moment like the SAP 2000 does. It’s a really nice software.
Comment to Angelina Castro
I agree to this point you said that Revit have a better expression on 3D model than AutoCAD especially the visual illustration in different perspectives . The characteristic of AutoCAD is that you can draw the lines in different layers. Actually, AutoCAD also have the Architecture edition, which is called ArchiCAD. It also provide lots of models like walls, electrical machines, steels pipe for user to adopt in the project. Revit and AutoCAD are from the same company, so Revit imitate some main functions of AutoCAD.
Comment to Hamad AL Sulaiti
It is a good point for you to relate the week 3’s lecture to the blog. It’s the first time I hear that Autodesk Inc. will publish the Building Design SUITE Premium 2015. I think they will do a great amount of improvement on visual expression and adding more models to the software. To architects and engineers, that will be a good news. The word, “cinematic-quality 3D”, make me excited and I hope they can get the software much easier to use.
Jonathan (Yu-Sen Liu) B3 - Group C
What are the possible future advantages of Revit/ BIM?
BIM and Revit has been a great help in the design and visualization of modern infrastructure. The use of BIM programs has allowed designers to see how multiple systems interact with each other and to make connections between two 2D planes. For example, AutoCAD works primarily with 2D planes where a designer draws something on a x-y plane for the North elevation of a building and then a separate page for East elevation for the building. Revit allows the connection between these two planes and adds a 3-Dimensional perspective on the whole building. This is something that many designers and design companies are converting to in order to become more efficient with the integration of multiple systems.
I believe that Revit is only a template of what BIM programs can become. With the integration of rising technologies such as 3D printing, 3D Virtual holographic interfaces, and motion tracking interfaces, BIM design can grow to even greater hights. Revit and other BIM programs may also allow for a more complicated designs with the use of modern product design such as structural glass that is stronger than steel and 3D printing of concrete for more complicated shapes and demands.
References:
Structural/ more durable glass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13B5K_lAabw
3D Printing Concrete:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzmCnzA7hnE
Revit Future Problems - Week 3 - Group A - Castonguay
What are the possible future problems with Revit/BIM?
After reading BIM: Trends, Benefits, Risks, and Challenges for the AEC industry, I learned about many future challenges BIM faces. The main challenges for the future are technical and managerial. Management issues include the implementation and use of BIM. At this moment, there is no common agreement on how to implement and use BIM. There isn't one single document giving instruction on BIM's application and use right now. According to an artile on Ralaw.com, not much has been done to diminish this issue and create BIM contract documents. In the future, this will definitely need to be addressed. Also, the BIM process is commonly not used a a whole. Often times firms will use certain aspects of the model, but no he entire process, which could defeat the purpose for using BIM all together. In the future, there needs to be some way to standardize the process and create guidelines for using BIM.
Another topic brought up in the article is how we will need to figure out issues of ownership and risk management. Facilities managers are not usually included in the building process, but involving them more could help them implement maintenance strategies in the design process rather than just based on the as-built condition. Finding a time for facilities managers to be included in the BIM process could be challenging but it would resolve many problems.
Something else that could be an issue for the future is the development of content in Revit. Manufacturers have been slow to develop their content and some create content that lacks quality. As time passes and many new products are developed, Revit needs to be able to keep up with it. All of these products need to be updated in Revit so they can be modeled. I see this as a huge issue for the future because of how fast new products are being manufactured.
Additional Comments:
Catherine Stevens brought up the idea of future issues with legal ownership of BIM data. I definitely agree that there is no simple answer for the true owner of a BIM project. Licensing issues could definitely develop major issues with BIM.
Ilana Ritvalsky discussed BIM's effect on employment rates. I agree that it could take jobs away from some people who are less experienced technicians, but this is also what happened with AutoCAD drafting and the industry seemed to survive. As times change, people need to adapt to be able to make it and I think that the adoption of BIM won't have too much effect.
J Schwakoff brought up a great point about keeping models up-to-date. After buildings are created, many things get changed and upgraded. There should be someone specifically in charge of editing these models so they can continue to be references throughout the buildings life cycle.
Azhar, Salman. "Building Information Modeling (BIM): Trends, Benefits, Risks, and Challenges for the AEC Industry." Leadership and Management in Engineering 11.3 (2011): 241. Web. 27 Jan. 2015.
After reading BIM: Trends, Benefits, Risks, and Challenges for the AEC industry, I learned about many future challenges BIM faces. The main challenges for the future are technical and managerial. Management issues include the implementation and use of BIM. At this moment, there is no common agreement on how to implement and use BIM. There isn't one single document giving instruction on BIM's application and use right now. According to an artile on Ralaw.com, not much has been done to diminish this issue and create BIM contract documents. In the future, this will definitely need to be addressed. Also, the BIM process is commonly not used a a whole. Often times firms will use certain aspects of the model, but no he entire process, which could defeat the purpose for using BIM all together. In the future, there needs to be some way to standardize the process and create guidelines for using BIM.
Another topic brought up in the article is how we will need to figure out issues of ownership and risk management. Facilities managers are not usually included in the building process, but involving them more could help them implement maintenance strategies in the design process rather than just based on the as-built condition. Finding a time for facilities managers to be included in the BIM process could be challenging but it would resolve many problems.
Something else that could be an issue for the future is the development of content in Revit. Manufacturers have been slow to develop their content and some create content that lacks quality. As time passes and many new products are developed, Revit needs to be able to keep up with it. All of these products need to be updated in Revit so they can be modeled. I see this as a huge issue for the future because of how fast new products are being manufactured.
Additional Comments:
Catherine Stevens brought up the idea of future issues with legal ownership of BIM data. I definitely agree that there is no simple answer for the true owner of a BIM project. Licensing issues could definitely develop major issues with BIM.
Ilana Ritvalsky discussed BIM's effect on employment rates. I agree that it could take jobs away from some people who are less experienced technicians, but this is also what happened with AutoCAD drafting and the industry seemed to survive. As times change, people need to adapt to be able to make it and I think that the adoption of BIM won't have too much effect.
J Schwakoff brought up a great point about keeping models up-to-date. After buildings are created, many things get changed and upgraded. There should be someone specifically in charge of editing these models so they can continue to be references throughout the buildings life cycle.
Azhar, Salman. "Building Information Modeling (BIM): Trends, Benefits, Risks, and Challenges for the AEC Industry." Leadership and Management in Engineering 11.3 (2011): 241. Web. 27 Jan. 2015.
B3 - Justin Hileman - Group E
The topic of discussion for this weekly blog post today is presented in a question:
"How does Revit relate to Autocad and other drafting programs?"
The question brings up many other sub-questions with respect to how it relates, what other programs, etc. There is not a very easy answer for this question because they are unique in their own ways, but they do have some similarities.
For a simple answer, Revit and AutoCAD are both computed based drafting programs that allow you to design and draft 2-D and 3-D models. An interesting section I found on the Autodesk website actually allows you to compare Revit and AutoCAD side-by-side, as well as against the Building Design Suite. If you are to scroll down on this page and find the instances where the section contains a check mark for both Revit and AutoCAD, you will find that there is only one. This is the section for "Point cloud viewing and editing". This is actually something we have discussed previously in class and allows users to create and edit 3-D models across different platforms using the cloud to share the model.
After more comparison and consideration, one can conclude that Revit relates to AutoCAD because of it's purpose and use. Revit and AutoCAD can both be used for design and implementation of different models. Although Revit and AutoCAD differ significantly with Revit allowing you to use BIM and scheduling and costs, they both will allow a designer/drafter to create a model to use for building purposes.
Some of the main ways that Revit and AutoCAD can relate with with other drafting programs are the way they allow you to design and edit and share these files. A great deal of design and drafting is done on the computer, instead of by hand now. This allows quicker editing and fixing mistakes, whereas before, you would have to redraw the design. Both of these programs, as well as other computer-based programs, save companies time and money and also provide more accuracy. Using computers require more precise detail because errors can and will occur and not allow the model to not be complete.
For this post, I only tried to use the two basic programs mentioned, Revit and AutoCAD. There are many other versions that could've been discussed but I was trying to relate the two programs with the best of my ability based solely on those instead of trying to incorporate the other parts and services offered by Autodesk.
Comments
In response to the post written by Hamad Al-Sulaiti, I thoroughly enjoyed how you began your blog with discussing the topic of technology and how useful it is, then transitioning into talking about how AutoCAD and Revit are part of that technology. I would have to say that I think you could've compared Revit and AutoCAD better, stating more similarities instead of what each program offers. When reading this post, it sounds more like discussing the benefits of each program instead of how they relate.
In response to the post written by Angelina Castro, it was an interesting read. I enjoyed the background on each program, as it would've been helpful if I had no experience with either program. I then like how you transitioned into how the two programs relate and how they can both be used to model similar 2-D designs. The information on how they differ was unique and enjoyable to read. I like how you ended the article leaving the reader with the idea that there is plenty more research that can and should be done.
In response to the post written by Hang Wang, this is very thorough and detailed. I enjoyed reading the background on the design software and your personal experiences with using each program. By stating that you have used the program shows you understand what it has to offer and how they could relate. I like how you separated the different sections when comparing the programs. It was very easy to read how they both relate and then how they relate to other programs. As I stated in my post, I did not consider any of the other types of Autodesk products and this made the post interesting to read.
Sources:
Revit - http://www.autodesk.com/products/revit-family/overview
AutoCAD - http://www.autodesk.com/products/autocad/overview
http://www.autodesk.com/suites/building-design-suite/compare/compare-to-other-products
"How does Revit relate to Autocad and other drafting programs?"
The question brings up many other sub-questions with respect to how it relates, what other programs, etc. There is not a very easy answer for this question because they are unique in their own ways, but they do have some similarities.
For a simple answer, Revit and AutoCAD are both computed based drafting programs that allow you to design and draft 2-D and 3-D models. An interesting section I found on the Autodesk website actually allows you to compare Revit and AutoCAD side-by-side, as well as against the Building Design Suite. If you are to scroll down on this page and find the instances where the section contains a check mark for both Revit and AutoCAD, you will find that there is only one. This is the section for "Point cloud viewing and editing". This is actually something we have discussed previously in class and allows users to create and edit 3-D models across different platforms using the cloud to share the model.
After more comparison and consideration, one can conclude that Revit relates to AutoCAD because of it's purpose and use. Revit and AutoCAD can both be used for design and implementation of different models. Although Revit and AutoCAD differ significantly with Revit allowing you to use BIM and scheduling and costs, they both will allow a designer/drafter to create a model to use for building purposes.
Some of the main ways that Revit and AutoCAD can relate with with other drafting programs are the way they allow you to design and edit and share these files. A great deal of design and drafting is done on the computer, instead of by hand now. This allows quicker editing and fixing mistakes, whereas before, you would have to redraw the design. Both of these programs, as well as other computer-based programs, save companies time and money and also provide more accuracy. Using computers require more precise detail because errors can and will occur and not allow the model to not be complete.
For this post, I only tried to use the two basic programs mentioned, Revit and AutoCAD. There are many other versions that could've been discussed but I was trying to relate the two programs with the best of my ability based solely on those instead of trying to incorporate the other parts and services offered by Autodesk.
Comments
In response to the post written by Hamad Al-Sulaiti, I thoroughly enjoyed how you began your blog with discussing the topic of technology and how useful it is, then transitioning into talking about how AutoCAD and Revit are part of that technology. I would have to say that I think you could've compared Revit and AutoCAD better, stating more similarities instead of what each program offers. When reading this post, it sounds more like discussing the benefits of each program instead of how they relate.
In response to the post written by Angelina Castro, it was an interesting read. I enjoyed the background on each program, as it would've been helpful if I had no experience with either program. I then like how you transitioned into how the two programs relate and how they can both be used to model similar 2-D designs. The information on how they differ was unique and enjoyable to read. I like how you ended the article leaving the reader with the idea that there is plenty more research that can and should be done.
In response to the post written by Hang Wang, this is very thorough and detailed. I enjoyed reading the background on the design software and your personal experiences with using each program. By stating that you have used the program shows you understand what it has to offer and how they could relate. I like how you separated the different sections when comparing the programs. It was very easy to read how they both relate and then how they relate to other programs. As I stated in my post, I did not consider any of the other types of Autodesk products and this made the post interesting to read.
Sources:
Revit - http://www.autodesk.com/products/revit-family/overview
AutoCAD - http://www.autodesk.com/products/autocad/overview
http://www.autodesk.com/suites/building-design-suite/compare/compare-to-other-products
B3 - Advantages of Revit
While not perfect, BIM is bringing the building industry into the 21st century by doing what makes sense, giving meaning to drawings though metadata. By changing the idea of drafting from a 2D drawing with multiple layers, to a 3D drawing with components, we have officially brought drafting into the "iron age" (if you consider Blueprints as the stone age and 2D software as the bronze age). What Revit does really well is the integration of the different disciplines of the design phase. Every discipline can work in one file, rather than every body working from scratch in the same file and because of this, it will help the industry in embracing IPD (Integrated Project Development) as the standard form of design. What Revit is also good at is presenting a rendering of the design, making the engineers job of explaining work to an owner or zoning board easier. Lastly, the major benefit of BIM is clash detection. Because of all the different disciplines working in the same file, each company can see where there design falls in space, and the software can determine if the (for example) HVAC system goes through a concrete column... I think BIM shows great promise for the future, but there is so much more room to grow.
What are the current problems with Revit/BIM?
As we discussed in class last week, interoperability
is a major concern in the BIM community, where programmers and engineers want
and need systems to work seamlessly with one another. This was, is and will
continue to be a serious issue of BIM if a universal program or sister
applications can't be created to make all disciplines and aspects of a project
function without any problems. The first source briefly touches on this
subject. "In addition, dual platforms
functioning within the same office pose a staffing challenge". In the past
(prior to when BIM became to how we know it today), most companies only
utilized CAD in their projects/design work which made it possible for
any employee to be a part of that project. However, now
programs such as Revit and BentlyArchitecture limit the personnel that can
contribute to a project. BIM programs can be more challenging to learn due to
their intricacies and vast array or capabilities but do provide valuable
functions once they are understood. This can lead to companies either being
forced to not bid on a project or needed to spend a lot of money and hours to
train the staff to use a specific program.
Another question raised about BIM
that never crossed my mind before was liability. My second source asks the
question "who should hold liability if the building fails to comply with
the recent or latest construction codes"? Is it the contractor, architect
or engineer? The reason this is an interesting topic to address is because the
overall goal of BIM is to have a large variety or personnel and engineering
disciplines working on the project at one time (or each group dealing with
specific aspects). Legal issues could arise due to designs that are incorrect
or misrepresented. This misrepresentation could be attributed to a general
contractor not being exposed to the 3D drawings or terminology that an
architect might use on a daily basis. Legal fees can lead to larger overall
cost of the project as well as scheduling delays. Additionally, BIM models can
be used to produce a rough estimate for an overall building cost, however it
cannot "consider actual price variation from
emerging market, such as metals, petroleum-derivative products, high gas prices, and other natural
disasters affecting manufacturer’s plant”. While this may not be on the top of BIM developers lists of things to fix, this feature could drastically change how buildings are constructed, scheduled and price, creating near perfect accuracy for cost estimates of all aspects of a project.
Comments:
Zilong Juno Xiao - You bring up an interesting problem with Revit/BIM in the future. While we have talked about original draftsmen who became unemployed when CAD came about and now how CAD draftsman are hesitant to learn BIM, I never thought about the younger generation (us). Will people slowly not need to know building codes as well as they do now because BIM will eventually do all of the calculations and checking for us? It will be interesting to see how integrated BIM will become in the design process.
Grig Papadourakis - I too came across the article "Growing Pains" while looking for material on our blog topic this week. Its interesting because when I think of BIM I instantly think of structural and architectural systems being able to function together in a building design. I feel like MEP, and in this case electrical especially, is always left on the back burner. Hopefully as the AutoDesk software gets better and the growing demand for BIM to be implemented in more and more projects, electrical contractors will have more experience in BIM because of is advancements in the software itself.
Illana Ritvalsky - It will be interesting to see how BIM effects the employment rate, but I'm skeptical to it having that significant of a negative effect and definitely not nearly as much as when 2D CAD came about. Right now it is a highly specialized field, but so was 2D CAD when it was first released. I think people in general are much more computer savy and will be able to pick up the nuances of BIM fairly quickly. With BIM rapidly becoming integrated in larger and more complex projects, it will only become more mainstream.
Zilong Juno Xiao - You bring up an interesting problem with Revit/BIM in the future. While we have talked about original draftsmen who became unemployed when CAD came about and now how CAD draftsman are hesitant to learn BIM, I never thought about the younger generation (us). Will people slowly not need to know building codes as well as they do now because BIM will eventually do all of the calculations and checking for us? It will be interesting to see how integrated BIM will become in the design process.
Grig Papadourakis - I too came across the article "Growing Pains" while looking for material on our blog topic this week. Its interesting because when I think of BIM I instantly think of structural and architectural systems being able to function together in a building design. I feel like MEP, and in this case electrical especially, is always left on the back burner. Hopefully as the AutoDesk software gets better and the growing demand for BIM to be implemented in more and more projects, electrical contractors will have more experience in BIM because of is advancements in the software itself.
Illana Ritvalsky - It will be interesting to see how BIM effects the employment rate, but I'm skeptical to it having that significant of a negative effect and definitely not nearly as much as when 2D CAD came about. Right now it is a highly specialized field, but so was 2D CAD when it was first released. I think people in general are much more computer savy and will be able to pick up the nuances of BIM fairly quickly. With BIM rapidly becoming integrated in larger and more complex projects, it will only become more mainstream.
References:
Architectural Evangelist - BIM Implementation:
Problems, Prospects and Strategies. (n.d.). Retrieved January 26, 2015, from
http://www.architecturalevangelist.com/building-information-modeling/bim-implementation-problems-prospects-and-strategies.html
Rodriguez, J. (n.d.). BIM Risks: Building Information
Modeling (BIM) Risks. Retrieved January 26, 2015, from
http://construction.about.com/od/Trends/a/Building-Information-Modeling-Risks.htm
B3 – Week 4 – Hamad Al-Sulaiti – Group E
“How does Revit relate to AutoCAD and other drafting
programs?”
Technology
nowadays has helped a lot of scientists to proceeds with their work without
consuming time and wasting money. But if we concentrate more on the technology
used in the engineering field, it would be found that technology has granted
engineers the necessary tools to designing buildings with accuracy and
efficiency. Companies that create those designing programs are competing with
each other to provide a better efficiency and more features to their users.
According
to the assigned topic, I have collected some important data to relate two different
products from Autodesk Inc., which is one of the leading companies for
3-dimentional design, engineering and entertainment software now. In 1982,
Autodesk Inc. has introduced its first designing product called AutoCAD, this 2D
design software have impressed the users. Autodesk Revit software was then
introduced with a lot of additional features that are helpful for architects,
structural engineers, MEP engineers, contractors and designers. What made Revit
more unique when it was first introduced is the 3D representation of a model,
also how all different systems in a building can be combined together and
edited. If we are comparing now the 2015 versions of AutoCAD and Revit, more
features can be found in Revit that makes a better production of a model. Both
of them can produce 3D models in 2015, but Revit now contains intelligent 3D
model-based design tools and coordinated models and documentations. Those
additional features give users more options to include to their design. According to the lecture we have attended in
Week 3, it can be learned how Revit coordination looks like, and how easy to
monitor and link models for the structural design to the architectural design
to the MEP design. This type of software gives more ease for users not only to
represent 3D models, but to also share their designs to produce a complete
building that contains all the necessary components.
Autodesk
Inc. is now the leading software corporation that does not only provide designing
programs. It is also looking forward to provide building visualization that
involves cinematic-quality 3D animation in its new software called Building
Design Suite Premium 2015. Technology keeps advancing each year to provide more
ease that help generations to make a better production in designs.
Comment
on Hang Wang:
Thank you for your helpful
comments regarding my blog. I have read yours and I think it is very
interesting because you have not only mentioned AutoCAD and Revit, but also
mentioned some other programs like ArchiCAD and AutoCAD Architecture. You have
also given your personal view on what you think is a better program.
Comment
on Justin Hileman:
Since you are still submitting your blog as a draft and no other students in Group E. I would have to say that I really liked how you used Autodesk's website to compare the two different type of products, which are AutoCAD and Revit. However, some more sentences should be added to complete the word count requirement.
References:
Lecture:
Mitchell, James. "Revit Structure." Drexel University. 20 Jan 2015.
A3 - Angelina Castro - Group E
This week were asked to respond on the following question: " How does Revit relate to Autocad and other drafting programs?"
Revit is a program that is created by a company called Autodesk. The purpose of Revit is to create BIM or Building Information Model files. A BIM file is a new type of medium in which buildings from the infrastructure, utilities, and architectural plans can be designed and managed and be found in one single 3D model. In addition BIM files can be incorporated with a 4D aspect that integrates a building schedule and how work is phased out. Next there is AutoCAD. Just like Revit, AutoCAD is owned by the company Autodesk. AutoCAD is a program that allows designers, architects, engineers, etc. to create 2D plans (and 3D plans) by use of “drawing” lines and shapes. These two programs are related firstly that they are compatible due to the fact that they are owned by the same company. Secondly these two programs do allow for the ability to create 2D plans of buildings with almost similar results. However, Revit will be able to make the process of creating the building way more efficiently. This is so because in if you need to do something like draw an exterior wall, you can easily just click on wall in Revit, specify that it is an exterior wall and draw out your walls in a few easy clicks. In AutoCAD, every single line will need to be drawn out making the process, although not difficult, take longer to complete. In addition, AutoCAD will only recognize those lines as just that: lines. In Revit, it recognizes lines as actual objects, like a specific wall type, and can be edited as such. This merely touches the tip of the iceberg of the many new features that a BIM creating program like Revit has in store for designers and others alike as opposed to drafting programs like AutoCAD.
Sources:
http://www.autodesk.com/solutions/building-information-modeling/overview
http://blog.digitaltutors.com/autocad-revit-draw-line/
Responses:
dePinhoNunes: I really enjoyed your comparison between the two programs AutoCAD and Microstation. Being that I have never used Microstation before, reading your description between the two programs really helped me understand the pros and cons of each program.
Giovanna: This post did a good job in describing the advantages of a BIM program like Revit. Being a common AutoCAD, I always find myself trying to use CAD shortcuts or commands while using Revit thinking that it will work. I thought it was interesting how you described Revit as intuitive when making the switch between the two platforms can sometimes be a challenge when in reality that observation about Revit is mostly true.
Justin: A good read. You did a good job in describing how the AutoCAD and Revit are related to each other laymen's terms, but also diving into a more in depth description as well. You mentioned that one of the ways these two programs are related is that they are both programs ensure an ease in sharing and editing files now that drafting is done on the computer these days. I find it weird that, although fully true that fact is, I always seem to forget it because of how advanced technology is today.
Revit is a program that is created by a company called Autodesk. The purpose of Revit is to create BIM or Building Information Model files. A BIM file is a new type of medium in which buildings from the infrastructure, utilities, and architectural plans can be designed and managed and be found in one single 3D model. In addition BIM files can be incorporated with a 4D aspect that integrates a building schedule and how work is phased out. Next there is AutoCAD. Just like Revit, AutoCAD is owned by the company Autodesk. AutoCAD is a program that allows designers, architects, engineers, etc. to create 2D plans (and 3D plans) by use of “drawing” lines and shapes. These two programs are related firstly that they are compatible due to the fact that they are owned by the same company. Secondly these two programs do allow for the ability to create 2D plans of buildings with almost similar results. However, Revit will be able to make the process of creating the building way more efficiently. This is so because in if you need to do something like draw an exterior wall, you can easily just click on wall in Revit, specify that it is an exterior wall and draw out your walls in a few easy clicks. In AutoCAD, every single line will need to be drawn out making the process, although not difficult, take longer to complete. In addition, AutoCAD will only recognize those lines as just that: lines. In Revit, it recognizes lines as actual objects, like a specific wall type, and can be edited as such. This merely touches the tip of the iceberg of the many new features that a BIM creating program like Revit has in store for designers and others alike as opposed to drafting programs like AutoCAD.
Sources:
http://www.autodesk.com/solutions/building-information-modeling/overview
http://blog.digitaltutors.com/autocad-revit-draw-line/
Responses:
dePinhoNunes: I really enjoyed your comparison between the two programs AutoCAD and Microstation. Being that I have never used Microstation before, reading your description between the two programs really helped me understand the pros and cons of each program.
Giovanna: This post did a good job in describing the advantages of a BIM program like Revit. Being a common AutoCAD, I always find myself trying to use CAD shortcuts or commands while using Revit thinking that it will work. I thought it was interesting how you described Revit as intuitive when making the switch between the two platforms can sometimes be a challenge when in reality that observation about Revit is mostly true.
Justin: A good read. You did a good job in describing how the AutoCAD and Revit are related to each other laymen's terms, but also diving into a more in depth description as well. You mentioned that one of the ways these two programs are related is that they are both programs ensure an ease in sharing and editing files now that drafting is done on the computer these days. I find it weird that, although fully true that fact is, I always seem to forget it because of how advanced technology is today.
B3 - Group D Jiaao Wu
What
are the current advantages of Revit/BIM?
With
the spreading idea of Building Information Model (BIM), Revit becomes a
“standard” tool for building design in famous companies. We may raise a
question that what the current advantages of Revit are.
First
of all, as Professor Mitchell had discussed in the class, the mechanism of
Revit is totally different from AutoCAD. In AutoCAD, any drawings can only be
identified as the combination of lines. Only in the case that people define the
different meanings of those lines, we can understand that thicker lines refer
to walls, and thinner lines refer to other stuff. Machine or program itself
could not identify them. However, when it comes to Revit, the situation is
different. In Revit, the drawings are bases on different elements instead of
lines. And, machine or program knows that this element is wall, and that one is
window. Besides, each elements can be assigned basic information such as
dimensions and material. Those information can be scheduled and kept with the
element. This can help users to better understand what they are doing.
Second,
Revit can serve multifunction as an analysis program. In addition to the design
function, Revit can combine all models from other programs for the analysis of
architectural, structural, MEP and so on. All those depends on the element
based program. As I have discussed above, since program can understand the
representation of each element, the program can directly take the data of the
model for analysis purpose. In addition, Revit has a strong linkage function,
which means when you make modification either in section view or 3D view, the
whole model will automatically update to avoid any simple mistake. This can
help the design firm to save a lot of time for checking the model. I have read
an example that, a design firm reduces their project from two and a half months
to one and a half months just in design phase.
Third,
Revit has great ability in modeling and exporting. Using Revit, we can export
dimensions and volume data of any building element. All these data can help us
to calculate the cost estimation of the project, which also depends on the
accuracy of the modeling. Since cost is always vital to a project, a better
cost estimation can help designers to follow the budget strictly. And the
render function in Revit can provide you a great view of your design including
color, shape as well as height. It can give you a thinking image of the
building before you actually see it. Any needed modifications could be caught
easily.
In
addition to the advantages I have discussed above, Revit has a lot of other
advantages. In my opinion, skilled in use of Revit or other BIM tools will
become a must for both Architectural Engineers and Civil Engineers especially
in the practical world.
Comments:
Comment to Santiago Uribe: Santiago lists about five advantages very clearly. I have the same idea that Revit or other BIM software increase the speed of project delivery. I think this is a very important criteria. On company side, time means money. Increasing the project delivery will save a lot of money for the design company.
Comment to Mark Bancroft: I agree that different contributors can work off one model. I think this relates to the data share between different programs. if we can make data translatable, this will provide more help for the integrate of the design.
Comment to Yanzhao Nong: I agree that schedule is a very good property in Revit. As professor Mitchell discussed in the class, schedule actually represents the database stored in the software. From the schedule, we can clearly see the number of doors or windows uses, as well as the dimensions and materials. It will make users to check each detail very convenient.
References:
“Why
do we use Revit?”, Jeffrey McGrew, http://becausewecan.org/node/261
“Advanced
Revit 2014 API Features and Samples”
http://thebuildingcoder.typepad.com/files/dv2010_advanced_revit_2014_api_handout-1.pdf
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